Mr. Antonelli "... Among other things, you'll find that you're not the first person who was ever confused and frightened and even sickened by human behavior..."
^My favorite quote in the book. If you start looking for perfection in humans you're going to continually end up disappointed. And as you get used to finding flaws it becomes easier and easier to do so, eg. Mr. Antonelli stroking Holden's hair makes Holden so uncomfortable. That instance also demonstrates that the same search for perfection creates a very cynical individual. It becomes difficult to socialize and live within society in general IE
"I thought what I'd do was, I'd pretend I was one of those deaf-mutes. That way I wouldn't have to have any goddam stupid useless conversations with anybody. ... and then I'd be through with having conversations for the rest of my life. ... they'd leave me alone"
After he leaves Mr. Antonelli's, Holden pretty much decides that communication in general is futile. He is done with the ways of the world, very much like one Christopher McCandless, though he's not thinking on a transcendentalist level so much as a romantic one.
And all romantics have to stop smelling the roses and accept concrete, garbage and human error eventually...
Tuesday, May 12, 2009
Wednesday, May 6, 2009
Phoebe, Allie, and Holden's view of Childhood
Holden identifies childhood with innocence. It is the only time when the corruption and 'phoniness', somewhat inherent in adulthood, are absent. Children are happy and mad for all the right reasons...
Holden talks endlessly about his younger siblings. In fact they are the only characters in the book (along with Jane, who we'll get to later) who he never equates with phoniness. And I think the lack of negative qualities has very little to do with the characters themselves but the negative connotations Holden Associates with adolescence and adulthood.
We could place symbolic meaning upon Allie and Phoebe. Allie could be innocence lost - symbolically through his death - I think that kind of speaks to the inevitability of corruption and perversion in the course of human life. Allie was never really exposed to either of these things but he still inevitably succumbed to death... This is a difficult point to articulate precisely.
Phoebe could be the remaining bastion of innocence - something Holden can hold onto - the idea that there are still good, genuine and pure things in the world. A kind of all hope is not lost sort of thing.
And then there's Jane, who I believe falls into this same category, despite her age. Holden's thoughts regarding her are limited to the past, where she was an object of innocent affection, very different from the perverted, sexual relationships he perceives and expects now. I think Holden cuts off his repeated attempts to contact Jane because he does not want to acknowledge the fact that she might have changed.
And finally there is the museum. "Some things you ought to be able to put in a box". Innocence, purity, and the ignorant freedom of childhood.
Holden talks endlessly about his younger siblings. In fact they are the only characters in the book (along with Jane, who we'll get to later) who he never equates with phoniness. And I think the lack of negative qualities has very little to do with the characters themselves but the negative connotations Holden Associates with adolescence and adulthood.
We could place symbolic meaning upon Allie and Phoebe. Allie could be innocence lost - symbolically through his death - I think that kind of speaks to the inevitability of corruption and perversion in the course of human life. Allie was never really exposed to either of these things but he still inevitably succumbed to death... This is a difficult point to articulate precisely.
Phoebe could be the remaining bastion of innocence - something Holden can hold onto - the idea that there are still good, genuine and pure things in the world. A kind of all hope is not lost sort of thing.
And then there's Jane, who I believe falls into this same category, despite her age. Holden's thoughts regarding her are limited to the past, where she was an object of innocent affection, very different from the perverted, sexual relationships he perceives and expects now. I think Holden cuts off his repeated attempts to contact Jane because he does not want to acknowledge the fact that she might have changed.
And finally there is the museum. "Some things you ought to be able to put in a box". Innocence, purity, and the ignorant freedom of childhood.
Sunday, May 3, 2009
Since that discussion we had in class about marriage I've been thinking quite a bit about said institution and so far I haven't come up with anything warranting it's existence.
If two people love each other, why do they need a public declaration of their commitment? Is it not enough to say 'we're in love witch each other'?
Aside from the tax benefits and the negative stigma associated with relationships out of wedlock I don't see any real benefit to marriage.
Is love not enough?
So I'm posing the question outwards here, what is the purpose of marriage? I know it's tempting to say that's just the way it is but lets try to avoid that.
For starters let me assert that marriage predates recorded history - the original concept is not tied to a particular identifiable religion or culture. It's more or less universal too.
There must be something obvious.
If two people love each other, why do they need a public declaration of their commitment? Is it not enough to say 'we're in love witch each other'?
Aside from the tax benefits and the negative stigma associated with relationships out of wedlock I don't see any real benefit to marriage.
Is love not enough?
So I'm posing the question outwards here, what is the purpose of marriage? I know it's tempting to say that's just the way it is but lets try to avoid that.
For starters let me assert that marriage predates recorded history - the original concept is not tied to a particular identifiable religion or culture. It's more or less universal too.
There must be something obvious.
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